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Bob Wenning's avatar

This comes down to poor communication of their actual policies by Dems vs the dominance of right wing media in distorting the Dems position. Dems support or are sympathetic to some 'cultural' issues but they are not an emphasis. Biden won in 20 as a centrist. Harris went out of her way to avoid culture war issues. These culture war issues are not core policies for most Dems but they are what the GOP and it's vast propaganda network say are the center of Dems existence.

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Sarah Fredriksson's avatar

I grew up in Macomb County, and most of my large extended family are still in that area. And I can say that what you heard and what you found is right. Many in my family worked for the auto companies or ancillary companies, and the Reaganomics of the 80’s with trickle-down bullshit decimated southeast Michigan. No anti-trust enforcement, massive mergers and outsourcing jobs and whole companies, combined with unions getting weakened was a huge thing there. College was not an option for most, both because of cost and just socialization of working class people. And there was Republican propaganda even then, even before Fox Corp got such an entrenchment. I remember all the propaganda about unions being bad, government workers being lazy, and the Welfare Queen racism was particularly effective because SE Michigan was one of the most segregated areas anywhere. Most blacks were in Detroit, Macomb County was 99% white, and blacks venturing beyond the 8 Mile Rd border (of Eminem fame) were subject to intense discrimination. White flight was a huge thing in Michigan. And Republicans gerrymandered MI so badly that there was decades of GOP rule that further destroyed peoples lives.

So then we get to the Democrats. No Democrat until Biden has seriously addressed trickle-down economics. Clinton really didn’t do anything to rein in corporations and middle-class taxation, and Obama used his political capital on the ACA (granted, a great thing). Even if they had done more, Republicans’ scorched-earth rhetoric wouldn’t allow any other message to get through. And we know Dems message terribly, and got worse because they became so afraid of being called liberal. Biden did great things but he didn’t message enough. And he let Republicans delay the implementation of things which took too long to take effect, so people didn’t see. And messages - God, Green New Deal? Build Back Better? Ridin’ with Biden? Gah!

Now, Dems have learned all the wrong lessons. Strategists and consultants muzzling them from just talking to voters, telling them not to make waves or come out with anything but vanilla policies of more of the same. Move to the center. Try to get Republican or MAGA voters.

People are hungry for real change. Kamala had a chance, if she would have come out rapidly with big change, not been muzzled. And even now, seeing all the vast support for Luigi Mangione (both sides) Democrats could get voters by supporting some kind of health insurance reforms or Medicare for all or something. They see how popular Bernie Sanders is but brush it off because his ideas are too “radical”. People respect that Bernie sticks to his guns, doesn’t let Republicans gaslight him, and punches back.

Most of all, Dems don’t defend their policies in the face of Republican bs. They don’t stand for anything. They’re weak. Overwhelmingly weak.

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